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crudestpack 6/25/2022 1:38 PM
Player Since I'm not on the staff team and have been here for a full season, I believe that I could bring a fresh face to the committee. Wanting to get more involved, I think that this would give me a good opportunity to help out on the server. I would also want to give a fair voice to the players on the different rulings that are passed down. With arbiters needing to be unbiased, I feel like I could be that unbiased force that could balance out different decisions made.
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FA | kowalskey πŸ†πŸ† 7/5/2022 8:10 PM
what kind of punishment is appropriate for an arbiter that commits treason by being biased in 5-10 cases?
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scraps changed the channel name: omA - Player 7/5/2022 8:11 PM
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FA | kowalskey πŸ†πŸ†
what kind of punishment is appropriate for an arbiter that commits treason by being biased in 5-10 cases?
FA | ZyraReflex 7/5/2022 8:17 PM
???
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step bro πŸ† πŸ† 7/5/2022 8:21 PM
@ATL | omA 🏆 If mods want to make new precedent (interpretation of the rules) how do you view that change? For example, if in the past something was seen as okay but now mods decided it is not okay and we strike for that now. How do you think we should handle that? Should that player be let off that strike if they choose to appeal it?
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NAN | JermzPC 7/5/2022 8:35 PM
I'm sorry but can admins rule on if Kowalskey's hypothetical is even relevant/a legitimate thing that's allowed to be asked. How would this even be known/addressed even if it happened and what prompted such an off base question? (edited)
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PFA | Crispy 7/5/2022 8:35 PM
if you could pick one other candidate to work with whom would you choose and why?
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NAN | JermzPC 7/5/2022 8:35 PM
(this goes for all arbiters he posted in)
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FA | kowalskey πŸ†πŸ†
what kind of punishment is appropriate for an arbiter that commits treason by being biased in 5-10 cases?
Hi :) this question is quite frankly inappropriate and if you know anything about arbitration proceedings you would know how the process works.. It is important to note for everyone here that arbiters recuse themselves (and tell each other to recuse) if there is potential bias to be had (ex or current teammate/gm/agm/etc). and it is also not known to the public/person appealing which arbiters were involved in their case. If you have any other confusion in the processes of arbitration, feel free to ask!
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SANTATRONIC πŸ† 7/5/2022 10:16 PM
Hello, current arbiter here (I'm the scary one). What is the biggest change you want to see in the current arbiter committee?
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Hello, current arbiter here (I'm the scary one). What is the biggest change you want to see in the current arbiter committee?
ATL | omA πŸ† 7/6/2022 3:48 PM
I don’t really find there to be any major changes that are necessary to the current system. Rather, I’d want to be an addition to the system as a level head and join with 0 bias. I feel that that’s a very important part of keeping arbiters functioning at full capacity: keeping all bias out and bringing in level-headed people to help work on the server. As for minor changes, I’d like to think that adding an extra 1 or 2 arbiters (most likely from players rather than staff) would help bring in more voices to keep all parties satisfied. (edited)
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PFA | Crispy
if you could pick one other candidate to work with whom would you choose and why?
ATL | omA πŸ† 7/6/2022 3:49 PM
The only 2 players that I’ve talked to in the past briefly to have been Raasck and Firehawk, but I think that both of them would be great additions to the team, so working with either one would be perfect. (edited)
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pecan50 πŸ†πŸ† 7/6/2022 5:31 PM
In your own words, what does being an arbiter mean and do?
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GAS | Gindeht πŸ† 7/6/2022 5:47 PM
If you were presented with a case that involved two friends, and A was struck for being toxic to B, in clear violation of the rules, but both A and B claim that it was an inside joke how would you rule/make a decision.
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@ATL | omA 🏆 If mods want to make new precedent (interpretation of the rules) how do you view that change? For example, if in the past something was seen as okay but now mods decided it is not okay and we strike for that now. How do you think we should handle that? Should that player be let off that strike if they choose to appeal it?
ATL | omA πŸ† 7/7/2022 12:56 PM
i think it's very dependent on the precedent. if it has only happened once before, it's hard to say if the precedent that was created was the correct response to the situation. in a minor offence, discussion regarding what was previously decided as a ruling compared to the current thought process would help refine or correct the rulings made. for precedents that have been around for much longer, then it would require much more discussion. with a precedent being held for long periods of time, it would need good reason to be changed. when it comes to previous strikes, i believe it would need to be reviewed on a case by case basis to compare them to the new precedent. going along with your example, if it was previously struck for saying something that is no longer allowed, it should be looked at in the new lens: is it still unacceptable based on the new precedent/rules? if so, then the strike is left as is. if not, then the player should be alerted of the changed rulings/precedent so that they know that their strike is no longer present (edited)
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GAS | Gindeht πŸ†
If you were presented with a case that involved two friends, and A was struck for being toxic to B, in clear violation of the rules, but both A and B claim that it was an inside joke how would you rule/make a decision.
ATL | omA πŸ† 7/7/2022 12:59 PM
i would not allow any bias into the decision, so i would rule heavily through the rules in a word-for-word manner. this would shut down any bias, still holding precedents that are in effect for anyone else. no one should be left off the hook just because of any relationship/ties i have to them, and i'd expect the same from the rest of the team.
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ATL | omA πŸ† 7/7/2022 1:09 PM
@crudestpack i wanted to clarify your question: are you asking if i think that a rule should be overturned since i disagree with it or because there was an incorrect ruling?
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crudestpack 7/7/2022 1:57 PM
disagree with the rule
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ATL | omA πŸ†
i would not allow any bias into the decision, so i would rule heavily through the rules in a word-for-word manner. this would shut down any bias, still holding precedents that are in effect for anyone else. no one should be left off the hook just because of any relationship/ties i have to them, and i'd expect the same from the rest of the team.
TFR | 42Firehawk 7/7/2022 3:37 PM
I believe the question is saying a and b are friends, not you to a and b. At least from my reading.
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TFR | 42Firehawk
I believe the question is saying a and b are friends, not you to a and b. At least from my reading.
ATL | omA πŸ† 7/7/2022 3:57 PM
i can see how i misinterpreted it, thanks for pointing that out. my point and stance wouldn't change however, since it would be unfair to other rulings if one was seen as more toxic than another. since toxicity can be up to interpretation, it can be hard to judge the gray-area that acts as the line between playful banter and real toxicity. i think reviewing case-by-case is necessary, but generally using the same precedents should be the norm.
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TFR | 42Firehawk
I believe the question is saying a and b are friends, not you to a and b. At least from my reading.
FA | ZyraReflex 7/7/2022 3:58 PM
correct + you'd have to recuse yourself if you were friends with them
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disagree with the rule
ATL | omA πŸ† 7/7/2022 4:17 PM
i believe that yes, at times overturning a rule for different cases should be possible. that being said, i think it should only happen in highly-disputed cases/rules. creating a precedent that the arbiter committee will continue to change rules at the drop of a hat is a bad look. it removes previous precedents, which i believe shouldn't be done very often (bar the one-off cases)
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In your own words, what does being an arbiter mean and do?
ATL | omA πŸ† 7/7/2022 4:41 PM
to me, being an arbiter is to act as judge and jury for the players in CSC. staying fair and lining with the rules is extremely important to the health of the committee, and for the relationship with the players in the server.
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