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AVI | Fuffy 🏆 4/19/2022 3:07 PM
Candidate: @OS | Cash 🏆 Backer: @PFA | the|Supreme 🏆🏆 "Cash has been a mainstay in CSC for a long time, not just as a player but as an excellent GM. He is outspoken on problems and has demonstrated he is willing to put in the time and effort to better the league." Why do you want to become an Admin? After being in a position where I could see many of the big issues and comment on them but do nothing about it made me super frustrated, I want to impact and make a change on the league that made me fall back in love with counterstrike. I want to give the community more of a voice and fix many of the large issues that have been made over the past seasons Prior. What prior experience do you have that you believe will help you as an Admin? I think the biggest experience I could point to is being a gm in csc as I know a lot of the inner workings of the league, but I have been admin in a magnitude of other servers aswell. What things do you hope to implement, reinforce, or remove as an Admin. "Public mmr – I am 100% committed to public mmr and regret that we could not achieve this last season. Some of the issues that arise with private mmr made themselves clear recently and by making mmr public those issues shouldn’t be a thing anymore. (edited)
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High level player retention/scheduling. having a better and more concrete schedule for premier would have lessened the need for subs and make it so not as fewer people leave after or prior to the draft. While other admins may disagree, and it will be a topic of discussion, what I recommend is to just keep the same default days as normal (Tuesday-Thursday) but still keep the matchday blocks. Meaning there would be 1 default day 1 week and two the other. making it so there isn’t three in 1 week and allows the flexibility higher level players need for making time around things such as ESEA and lower the burden of having to play three match days in a row at worse case. Staff retention. Our current biggest issue from my point of view. Many staff have expressed their plans for leaving this season and many already have. This comes from a lack of voice they feel they have on issues. Be that punishments, changes, and lack of communication with them and the admin team. I plan on creating a pathway for staff and players to communicate their frustrations and ideas by making the admin team more open with staff and players about many topics. Often enough many decisions the admin team make are without much or any input from the staff but tends to directly affect them. I plan to communicate to staff on upcoming changes and issues CSC faces to bring about more thought-out and league-friendly decisions. This will be done by creating a “upcoming changes channel” that will allow staff to respond and express their ideas and concerns using threads.
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TFR | 42Firehawk 4/19/2022 9:12 PM
How does an upcoming changes channel differ from a more widely used new idea discussion, as the channel is currently barren?
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2 questions: 1. You had a week long mute end this morning for using slurs. If I vote for you, how can I trust that you won't do that again and get removed from your position? 2. Can you elaborate on the paths of communication you plan to open up between Admins and staff/players? Is it simply using the newsletters more to communicate what's going on in the admin team? Or is there something else you had in mind?
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TFR | 42Firehawk
How does an upcoming changes channel differ from a more widely used new idea discussion, as the channel is currently barren?
new idea is staff only
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UPS | Raasck 4/19/2022 9:13 PM
Cash, you’ve been very open with your struggles with mental health. While I don’t intend to use or hold it against you in anyway I do want to ask if you feel it would impact your ability to be present, active and in good decision making states especially given the immense strain the admin position has been shown to cause at times?
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TFR | 42Firehawk
How does an upcoming changes channel differ from a more widely used new idea discussion, as the channel is currently barren?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 9:15 PM
to start. mostly the biggest difference is that the changes that have been decided are full set ideas and have went through the full process of the admin team where as new ideas is more or less give recommendations, the admin team would be telling you what they are about to do rather than. it just being ideas
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TFR | 42Firehawk 4/19/2022 9:15 PM
Thank you for the clarification
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2 questions: 1. You had a week long mute end this morning for using slurs. If I vote for you, how can I trust that you won't do that again and get removed from your position? 2. Can you elaborate on the paths of communication you plan to open up between Admins and staff/players? Is it simply using the newsletters more to communicate what's going on in the admin team? Or is there something else you had in mind?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 9:19 PM
while my mute was a week long for a slur it was a lapse of judgement in response to a question I was given. After a long period of time of self reflect and understanding I understand Why or how this could look bad but I wouldn't ask for someone to back me and risk their reputation without taking things seriously and knowing the proper way to handles things, to the second part. Rather than just a news letter saying "hey we are doing this and this " where the decision is already final what I had in mind was including more people while the decision are being made rather than wait until after they are to hear opinions
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OS | Cash 🏆
while my mute was a week long for a slur it was a lapse of judgement in response to a question I was given. After a long period of time of self reflect and understanding I understand Why or how this could look bad but I wouldn't ask for someone to back me and risk their reputation without taking things seriously and knowing the proper way to handles things, to the second part. Rather than just a news letter saying "hey we are doing this and this " where the decision is already final what I had in mind was including more people while the decision are being made rather than wait until after they are to hear opinions
TFR | 42Firehawk 4/19/2022 9:20 PM
In response to your answer to question 2: How do you see this approach when compared to the issues that have been seen with copmlaints that admins have been slow to take actions as is?
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UPS | Raasck
Cash, you’ve been very open with your struggles with mental health. While I don’t intend to use or hold it against you in anyway I do want to ask if you feel it would impact your ability to be present, active and in good decision making states especially given the immense strain the admin position has been shown to cause at times?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 9:21 PM
My mental health is probably most of my close friends worries before I brought up me running for admin. I Feel personally ready and mentally ready on running for admin and took many different opinions on it before I ran. I also stepped down as gm with in mind that I would create more time for just being an admin
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One of the other things I do want to ask is how will things like college and admin meetings work (admins have had issues in the past being unavailable for most of the weekdays bc of college/work)
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TFR | 42Firehawk
In response to your answer to question 2: How do you see this approach when compared to the issues that have been seen with copmlaints that admins have been slow to take actions as is?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 9:23 PM
its about being proactive, having more imput on a choice tends to be really important. to talk about slowness I dont think thats an issue, rather the fact that people didnt actually know what they were doing and when which raised lots of concerns with many of the staff, and when given the final result they often questioned why it took so long. so by bridging communication and allowing to show work in progress that should help
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PFA | Crispy 4/19/2022 9:25 PM
+rep
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cash has always had other's in mind no matter if he was impacted on the topic or not
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he ALWAYS voiced his opinion if he thought something or someone was in the wrong
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I've been on the opposite side of his opinions countless times, but it's a trait I respect and look for in a leader
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One of the other things I do want to ask is how will things like college and admin meetings work (admins have had issues in the past being unavailable for most of the weekdays bc of college/work)
OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 9:28 PM
as I'm graduating and have plenty of time almost everyday I think this is one of my strongest points, I'm almost always available. Time is on my side very much so
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PFA | the|Supreme 🏆🏆 4/19/2022 9:28 PM
I know I backed aaron but one of the main reasons was his habit of speaking up when there was something wrong
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cash is wrong half the time, but willing to admit he is wrong KEKW
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Would you agree, that committees should be fully autonomous, in terms of members and what they aim to do, so long as aimed towards bettering their function?
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Asking as a numbers person not arbiter for the record.
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FA | kowalskey 🏆🏆 4/19/2022 9:29 PM
what will you do to make csc be less toxic? We have seen the general chats and all of the other channels garner a bit of toxicity and witch hunting lately and I can say without a doubt that it has been swept under the rug. What will and can you do to make it so that we can be a more welcoming environment where we don't witch hunt every 2nd day of the week?
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Would you agree, that committees should be fully autonomous, in terms of members and what they aim to do, so long as aimed towards bettering their function?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 9:29 PM
I feel committees need to be self sufficient and admins have little to no say on what they do. they are a hand to help when asked not something that is forced apon the committee
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ty for that cash 😄 . Really happy to hear that
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OS | Cash 🏆
I feel committees need to be self sufficient and admins have little to no say on what they do. they are a hand to help when asked not something that is forced apon the committee
and members of the committees?
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FA | kowalskey 🏆🏆
what will you do to make csc be less toxic? We have seen the general chats and all of the other channels garner a bit of toxicity and witch hunting lately and I can say without a doubt that it has been swept under the rug. What will and can you do to make it so that we can be a more welcoming environment where we don't witch hunt every 2nd day of the week?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 9:31 PM
so toxicity is a very main point for a lot of people, witch hunting is something that shouldn't be allowed to happen. even if you dislike someone that doesnt warrant such things. I think being more proactive with the mod team and getting conversations that are headed in that direction killed before they really start is the only true to stop it
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and members of the committees?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 9:32 PM
members of committees unless voted on should only be up to the committee head. the only time an admin should step in is if that person has a staff ban and even then that would be a mod committee thing (edited)
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OS | Cash 🏆
members of committees unless voted on should only be up to the committee head. the only time an admin should step in is if that person has a staff ban and even then that would be a mod committee thing (edited)
Once again cash, appreciate the sentiment 😄
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PFA | the|Supreme 🏆🏆 4/19/2022 9:50 PM
What do you think was the biggest failing of the admins this season and what would you have done differently? No hate on existing admins btw we can all work on improving
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PFA | the|Supreme 🏆🏆
What do you think was the biggest failing of the admins this season and what would you have done differently? No hate on existing admins btw we can all work on improving
OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 9:53 PM
I think there were really two, communication and lack of asking for help. Communication in what they were doing and how the community felt about their choices. It often felt like their hand was off the pulse of the league and what players and staff wanted. Help is the other thing, while over worked and often complaining many people reached out to ease the workload but were turned away.
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UPS | Raasck 4/19/2022 9:54 PM
Which of the other 2 candidates do you feel you’d work best with?
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 10:01 PM
I have no true preference with who I work with, but I do value splats experience very much so. As a new admin I think the amount of information he has will be super fun to work with. Scraps and Tnoodle I have a bunch of personal interactions with and enjoy both of them. Om is a very fun person to have conversations with as he thinks outside the box and often can give me new ideas.
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cash is wrong half the time, but willing to admit he is wrong KEKW
FA | ZyraReflex 4/19/2022 10:12 PM
true 100% the kind of quality you want someone with authority to have
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high-level people are always gonna be wrong a good amount of the time no matter what, but you rarely see them admit mistakes
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I don’t necessarily mean that as a slight against any admins or anything, I’m speaking broadly here
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FA | ZyraReflex
true 100% the kind of quality you want someone with authority to have
OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 10:26 PM
I would like to say I'm never afraid to admit I'm wrong and make the change to fix it. flexibility is something that you need when working with people for people
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ATO | Assass1n 4/19/2022 10:26 PM
are you interested in investing in the community with (This is just an example) a game night every Saturday or say jackbox, hide and seek, ect. mainly free ways to get the community interacting with each other
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 10:28 PM
I think community is what makes csc so fun. Events had done a great job in prior season to do so. I would love to continue this and have them comeback. Csc community nights are something that had been a staple point and one of the things I enjoyed very much. (edited)
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that being said, helping events get these things out and going would be the best way to help this. with a new committee head coming soon they should be more open to ideas and would recommend going to them about things like this
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OS | Cash 🏆
that being said, helping events get these things out and going would be the best way to help this. with a new committee head coming soon they should be more open to ideas and would recommend going to them about things like this
ATO | Assass1n 4/19/2022 10:32 PM
are you referencing events committee or making a new one?
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 10:33 PM
I think this is very much a events committee job. I dont see the need for a new committee just for community nights it self.
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while I wouldnt deny the committee from being made. I just see a lot of overlap
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ATO | Assass1n 4/19/2022 10:36 PM
would a sub committee be more fitting in your opinion?
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 10:36 PM
I think that 100 percent would be a great option
10:37 PM
if we could have a group that is committed to just running them that would allow them to be more consistent. a sub committee for just that is what media, numbers and other committees have done before
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so events could do that, and I would recommend that to them, in the end we need more people in events if we want things like this to happen
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PFA | Crispy 4/19/2022 10:51 PM
I think community nights should be weekly
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9 pm saturdays
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if people know when it is
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they'll show up
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 10:53 PM
while I dont disagree, We need man power to do something like that. Having community nights constantly can help build a comradery and could also lower toxicity aswell
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ATO | Assass1n 4/19/2022 10:59 PM
how long do you see yourself stay as admin?
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ATO | Assass1n
how long do you see yourself stay as admin?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/19/2022 11:00 PM
I would at the very least say the whole two season term, while things can happen that may change that, I don't run without being truly committed to doing the job right. I would love to stay for as long as I can.
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TFR | Dibes 🏆🏅 4/20/2022 12:13 AM
what are your thoughts and feelings on when and how to poll the community for decisions?
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 12:15 AM
well, I think some decisions don't warrant this but its not a bad idea to use to get the feeling of what people want and how they feel about choices. Giving the community more of a voice is almost never a bad thing.
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what about how?
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 12:19 AM
I think when its something that effects the league wide and we have time(meaning not a last second descion ). I feel this would be better for things like rules committee rather than admins, but if I were to use an example on how admins would use it, I think towards things related towards scheduling and such
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basically meaning. something you feel like there isnt a very clear anwser to, and it would be another good way on how to use polls to help make the decision easier. (edited)
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 12:42 AM
so it would be more something to aid a choice rather than make one. community feedback is paramount to having success when in a position of leadership aswell as maybe even more important to csc.
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i hope that anwsers your questions @Hacuub @TFR | Dibes 🏆🏅
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ATO | Assass1n
are you interested in investing in the community with (This is just an example) a game night every Saturday or say jackbox, hide and seek, ect. mainly free ways to get the community interacting with each other
UPS | Raasck 4/20/2022 12:45 AM
I’ll also comment that while admins do help out in other committees something like this isn’t something particularly relevant as events would handle this
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UPS | Raasck
I’ll also comment that while admins do help out in other committees something like this isn’t something particularly relevant as events would handle this
OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 12:46 AM
yeah I implied this but didnt say it straight out. look at the messages I said to polik on how i feel the involvement of admins in committees should look like
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PFA | Crispy
I think community nights should be weekly
UPS | Raasck 4/20/2022 12:49 AM
Weekly is a lot to ask. Bi weekly or monthly would be much more doable unless the number of people willing to host increases
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UPS | Raasck
Weekly is a lot to ask. Bi weekly or monthly would be much more doable unless the number of people willing to host increases
PFA | Crispy 4/20/2022 12:50 AM
#old-serious-suggestions
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pecan50 🏆🏆 4/20/2022 12:52 AM
Hey, Aaron! Hope you are doing well 🙂 First, I don't want to open up a debate on public MMR, but I would like your reasoning why you believe that it will be a benefit and outweigh any potential negatives. Second, you mention retention and keeping both players and staff interested in participating/volunteering in the league. What is it about CSC that attracts you to the league and wants you to keep participating / volunteering? and what specifically are you proposing to accomplish this? Finally, where is csc currently and what do you hope it becomes, when you are done with being an admin?
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pecan50 🏆🏆
Hey, Aaron! Hope you are doing well 🙂 First, I don't want to open up a debate on public MMR, but I would like your reasoning why you believe that it will be a benefit and outweigh any potential negatives. Second, you mention retention and keeping both players and staff interested in participating/volunteering in the league. What is it about CSC that attracts you to the league and wants you to keep participating / volunteering? and what specifically are you proposing to accomplish this? Finally, where is csc currently and what do you hope it becomes, when you are done with being an admin?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 12:56 AM
personally I think that public mmr has been a thing coming for a while. People better understanding how teams are created and the stigma as its so important. I feel more often than not people put to much weight into mmr when really its not the big of a deal. As for potential negatives. this could just be my opnion and I could be expecting to much, but if toxicity wanted to happen I dont think numbers would change that at all, Its something the community wants and it holds numbers more accountable by more than just the gms themselves.
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 1:03 AM
Second, CSC is more than just its league, its a community of people who enjoy playing counterstrike, I wanna see this league continue to grow and provide the wonderful experiences I had as well as others did when they played in the league. As for how to accomplish retention, first we want this to be a place where people want to put effort and be involved with. This is done by improving the quality of organizations and products we put out. Gaining members is also something that's is normally up to the committee heads in staff but when asked admins should do their upmost to help said committees find players that want to help. What I proposed was a way to keep staff from losing motivation and having their voices fall on deaf ears. As staff tend to be a life blood of a lot of things that happen. People will work on things they enjoy and have a say in.
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Homer 🏆🏆 4/20/2022 1:07 AM
raasck asked tnoodle this so i wanna get the rest of the candidates' positions on this: do you think admins should continue to be allowed to be GMs?
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 1:08 AM
As for your last point, Right now the league is in a gray area, where there is a lot of change happening and that is needed. I want the league to become a place that people can join and don't have to worry about what type of person they are or how the good they are out counterstike to enjoy themselves. I want csc to be bigger than just the league where people show up just to play two games a week and a place people enjoy meeting each other and form bonds a connections that are more than just that. And for the last part, where I want to leave the league. There was something my baseball coach said. Always leave the field better than you found it, Meaning even if its not good when you start there that doesn't mean you let it to continue to happen. I want this league to be better than it is and for people to want to be here.
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raasck asked tnoodle this so i wanna get the rest of the candidates' positions on this: do you think admins should continue to be allowed to be GMs?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 1:14 AM
So personally, as I recently stepped down from being gm in plans with running for admin as I wanted to be able to able to focus on just solely that. I feel as long as you have the time and can make the correct choices there shouldn't be an issue with being an admin and a gm. But I could see how it riding a fine line. The other reason with that is with numbers committee taking over adjustments there is not much an admin can do now that would warrant them being able to something that had happened in the past.
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The only other issue is that admins can see all other transactions channels and that is an actual major issue
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I understand both points and have no prefrence on either.
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Homer 🏆🏆 4/20/2022 1:15 AM
👍 ty
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PFA | xXx_legeNd_xXx_420 4/20/2022 11:11 AM
Aaron, I know you very well, and we've been friends since we both became GMs in Season 6. For this reason, I have no doubt you'll be a good admin, and I really hope you get the role so you can better the league. However, I would still like to ask you a few questions. I've read everything in this thread, whether it be your candidacy notes or the responses to questions you were asked, and I can tell that you exemplify what an admin should be in this league. You have a clear directive for the league, but you are also respectful of the committees and tend to give them more freedom to operate in their field of specialty. I like your plans to change up the default days for Premier, and appreciate that you recognize that tier was a shitshow even if you didn't have a team in it. However, as many others have mentioned, you are very open about your mental health. While this is admirable in many ways and you are incredibly brave for doing so, it does pose a concern that you will be burnt out of the position very quickly. I will not ask you about this, since you not only addressed this with Raasck's question but I also trust that you will see out your position until the very end. The question I will ask, is if you will be able to make an impartial decision as an admin. You tend to be very passionate and emotional about what you think is right, which is good in some sense, but leaves the question open to if you'd consider all points of view before making a decision. How impartial will you be if you are elected admin? Before I end this, I have a message to others reading this aside from cash, I would like to give a +rep for him as an admin candidate. While impartiality is important for admins and it's concerning that I had to ask that question, I know that he can remain impartial and want him to say it in his own words.
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 12:30 PM
First, Thanks so much for the kind words that you have said. with that being said Ill get into the issues you mentioned. So, While I am a emotional person and I tend to show how I feel about certain things because I'm never scared to voice my opinions on something, I would never take a personal issue into something that's bigger than me, As an admin you may work with people you don't enjoy and you have to understand that. Just because you don't get along doesn't mean you can completely ignore someone or throw what they say in the trash. About impartiality, I actually think this is one of the most important things an admin needs, "equal treatment of all rivals or disputants; fairness." is the definition of the word. I've never been one to treat someone poorly because I don't get along with them, While I have had arguments over things in the past I think that even when they have happened I was always willing to listen and admit when I'm wrong. I've always been someone who has fought for equal treatment and fairness in the league on don't ever plan on changing that.
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In your most recent answer cash, you mention being emotional, which I do think many of us have experienced. But then you go on to say the following, " About impartiality, I actually think this is one of the most important things an admin needs, "equal treatment of all rivals or disputants; fairness.", as well as stating "I've never been one to treat someone poorly because I don't get along with them," Yet, we had a disagreement during this season, in which you sent me the following dms, now whether I was in the right or not doesn't matter. What matters is you were willing to send these. Combine this with your recent strike for posting a slur, shows history of similar posts and messages, as well as with what you said to nolan, calling it a lapse of judgement for that post. How do you plan to counteract these moments you may run into, if you are elected admin, and why should we trust you not to follow in what you have a history of doing? (edited)
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In your most recent answer cash, you mention being emotional, which I do think many of us have experienced. But then you go on to say the following, " About impartiality, I actually think this is one of the most important things an admin needs, "equal treatment of all rivals or disputants; fairness.", as well as stating "I've never been one to treat someone poorly because I don't get along with them," Yet, we had a disagreement during this season, in which you sent me the following dms, now whether I was in the right or not doesn't matter. What matters is you were willing to send these. Combine this with your recent strike for posting a slur, shows history of similar posts and messages, as well as with what you said to nolan, calling it a lapse of judgement for that post. How do you plan to counteract these moments you may run into, if you are elected admin, and why should we trust you not to follow in what you have a history of doing? (edited)
UPS | Raasck 4/20/2022 2:24 PM
I think your wording is honestly very accusatory/baity. “How many lapses in judgements do you plan to have”
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let me change it then, my b
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 2:26 PM
well as I didn't handle that it then best ways, I was very civil during the conversation outside of those two messages you posted, so I would refrain from using them in a isolated way, this doesn't justify what I said to you and the language used was very inappropriate and I could have handled the situation better. Over three seasons and basically 1 1/2 years I've done that twice. While one was replying to a question that someone asked and what I said to you are two separate things. both handled not as good as I could have and I will own up to mistakes. That being said. Im a very serious person when doing thing and work my hardest when doing so. I dont half heart anything and dont plan to as an admin, You could just say that your taking my word and being sceptical is understandable. I plan on and will not let these things happen again.
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OS | Cash 🏆
well as I didn't handle that it then best ways, I was very civil during the conversation outside of those two messages you posted, so I would refrain from using them in a isolated way, this doesn't justify what I said to you and the language used was very inappropriate and I could have handled the situation better. Over three seasons and basically 1 1/2 years I've done that twice. While one was replying to a question that someone asked and what I said to you are two separate things. both handled not as good as I could have and I will own up to mistakes. That being said. Im a very serious person when doing thing and work my hardest when doing so. I dont half heart anything and dont plan to as an admin, You could just say that your taking my word and being sceptical is understandable. I plan on and will not let these things happen again.
I will say for everyone, i probably didnt handle that situation very well either, I was just worried about the verbiage you used.
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step bro 🏆 🏆 4/20/2022 2:42 PM
While were leaking DMs I'd like to ask how will you fuck spence when you're admin? /s In actuality I would just like to say that #CashForAdmin in full swing. I have full trust in CashMoneyMoe being able to contribute a large amount of time to being admin. I have no doubt that he will do a great job.
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 2:45 PM
again this is a league on discord, crude language can happen. I would never attack someone or use slurs so I would prefer you put the context of the situation when asking those questions
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OS | Cash 🏆
again this is a league on discord, crude language can happen. I would never attack someone or use slurs so I would prefer you put the context of the situation when asking those questions
How would you respond if what splat mentioned goes ahead? Where csc moderation would more closely that of rsc?
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 2:56 PM
while I think Stricker moderation is good, I don't think making it so if someone swears it should be strikable, remember that counterstrike it self is 18+ for violence. not saying we should allow everything under the sun. there is definitely a difference between crude language that is used commonly and things that are just not okay to say. to be honest I feel Rsc moderation is too Stricked and csc moderation is often to light. you need to find a middle ground.
2:57 PM
attacking others is not allowed imo at all. Even if you dislike them
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OS | Cash 🏆
while I think Stricker moderation is good, I don't think making it so if someone swears it should be strikable, remember that counterstrike it self is 18+ for violence. not saying we should allow everything under the sun. there is definitely a difference between crude language that is used commonly and things that are just not okay to say. to be honest I feel Rsc moderation is too Stricked and csc moderation is often to light. you need to find a middle ground.
Rsc doesn’t strike if you swear. We strike if you swear directed at someone. What you your thoughts be on that?
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 2:58 PM
I mean thats where context is important. isolating conversations can often lead to bad decisions and choices when just looking at them.
2:59 PM
swearing such as. attacking them, insulting them is what is strikable
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step bro 🏆 🏆 4/20/2022 2:59 PM
I think Splat would receive quite a bit of push back on some of that. A lot of CSC is more mature than RSC, and to discount that is large.
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Rsc doesn’t strike if you swear. We strike if you swear directed at someone. What you your thoughts be on that?
UPS | Raasck 4/20/2022 2:59 PM
Really not even an admin issue. That’s up to moderation committee
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step bro 🏆 🏆 4/20/2022 2:59 PM
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UPS | Raasck
Really not even an admin issue. That’s up to moderation committee
OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 3:10 PM
this is also very true, its up to the mod team to decide what is or isnt allowed in moderation.
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ATO | Assass1n 4/20/2022 3:12 PM
in that spirit (sorry if this was already asked) are you for or against the mod team being more autonomous and being separated from the admins?
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ATO | Assass1n
in that spirit (sorry if this was already asked) are you for or against the mod team being more autonomous and being separated from the admins?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 3:14 PM
I think working hand in hand is good, but the mod team and every other committee needs to be self sufficient. that being said if the admins see them doing something wrong, they should stop that from happening. I use the words guide hand a lot as that describes what a admins overall job is. We/ the admin team needs to be able to step in when asked to or need to.
3:15 PM
if you want to know more about how i feel about committee and admin involvement I wrote more above
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ATO | Assass1n 4/20/2022 3:20 PM
is there anything (mainly the mod team, but all committees) you would be looking to strip away or make more transparent for the rest of the community?
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 3:36 PM
I dont think "stripping away" things from the mod committee makes much sense. The mod committee works very hard and is constantly trying to improve what they are doing, so rather than that I would want to support them in the choices they make and help guide them to being the best version of the mod committee they can be. Helping build them and making it so they are able to continue to be self sufficient. Be that by improving training or anything the new mod head wants to do. Admins jobs are to make every committee be able to do their job properly not take away things unless its absolutely needed. @ATO | Assass1n
3:37 PM
if that doesn't answer it completely I can say more. (edited)
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ATO | Assass1n 4/20/2022 3:37 PM
no, that gets your point across very well thank you
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UPS | Raasck 4/20/2022 4:07 PM
What do you feel caused and how do you stop the massive turnover we saw in elevated staff positions this season?
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 4:11 PM
I think lack of communication and breaking of trust. I specifically wrote about this in my very first message. But to sum it up. Voices fell on deaf ears and frustrations caused many to lose their passion and not want to commit as much time. @UPS | Raasck
4:13 PM
Ideally the way to fix this is by making it so staff feel heard, and people want to be apart of the league so many care about.
4:14 PM
That starts with the admins, being more transparent about what they are doing, getting advice when needed, and even getting help when they need. so many people cared so much.
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UPS | Raasck 4/20/2022 4:14 PM
Would you be in favor of guaranteeing staff tickets would be addressed to some degree within 24-48 hours if elected?
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OS | Cash 🏆 4/20/2022 4:15 PM
absolutely. all tickets should be answered as soon as possible (edited)
4:16 PM
I know some staff had hard time getting responses but I dont want that to happen ever again
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NAN | JermzPC 4/21/2022 3:54 PM
Any questions have already been answered just reply with already answered Question 1: We will be losing one of the more technical and hour-intensive admins this election time. How do you feel you can fill in their shoes/ fill the responsibilities left behind
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Question 2: I would like to hear a general number of hours each week you will be available to work on csc related topics. If possible please back this number up.
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Question 3: One of the questions on everyone’s mind constantly who isn’t an admin/mod is “why was x muted”, “what was the situation with y”, “why can’t z play a match” are you for or against public striking and how would you propose to your fellow admins/ mods how to implement this change?
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Question 4: As stated in some of your previous questions as I’m combing through, many times it’s been pointed out the lack of communication during the season between the admin team and the players. It has also been established that fuffy has been the main admin point of contact as shown in notices. Are you for having logging of admin talks/ potentially adding a secretary position tacked on to one of the admins or creating the position where a member sits in on an admin meeting, takes notes, and posts them somewhere public for people to see? This would omit any sensitive information.
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Question 5: Public mmr is a great example. By all accounts of the platforms, we saw last season's admin election public mmr should have passed given everyone’s stance on it. However, a person changed their mind and when the statement came out no public mmr the public had to pry from the admin team who flipped their vote. Are you in favor of making the voting lines public for admin deductions IE saying who voted in what way? Another add-on to this I will give is if you want to give all admins the option to give a small paragraph on why they voted the way they did may help too.
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Question 6: We have a wide variety of skills here in CSC and that has become apparent as we reach a 4th tier being added to the top of CSC. One thing that some high-level players have said in the past is that there isn’t much representation of elite/premier players who are admins or even numbers. All 5 of the candidates this time around are all challengers and in the event of noodles, not players. With this feeling of disconnect from the players, how do you hope to deal with some of the concerns brought up?
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Questions 7: Do you think that premier was a success or failure this season as a new tier? If you don’t want the premier to be taken away what steps do you think need to be done to improve premier?
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Question 8: Scheduling: one of the things that have been depressing me and some of my players personally was the playoff schedule. We were all hoping to be on the stream for a playoff game to be able to show our friends and family our game (don’t worry it was a blowout shouldn’t have tuned in anyway). On that day in particular there were 5 full games being played in 3 different tiers one of which being a final. This puts a massive strain on media to try to get as many games streamed while also making the players not streamed sad. What ideas do you have for playoffs scheduling to alleviate this?
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Question 9: We are seeing record numbers come in and play CSC. There are so many new faces in here that it’s hard to keep track of sometimes. As we reach this record number the problem of retention is something that always comes up. The off-season is boring and for many, it’s seen as a lack of games to play. 10 men are great and open up a lot of fun but aren’t as fun as say season matches. On top of this combines roll around and for many players who just signed a 2 season contract with their gm they may be put at the bottom of the queue to even be allowed to play combines (many admins would literally come down to queues and force signed agents in the back of the line to basically not be allowed to play). What ways do you see could be done to fix this and give signed players more to do during combines?
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Question 10: Do you think this league needs another round of recruitment at the magnitude of last season? Do you find the player base to be a good size or do you think more expansion is needed/wanted? Do you think with our current staff capacities we have enough resources to support a league double the size of our current one?
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Question 11: Follow up on the above. With a mass influx of people comes a mass influx of attention from potential hackers, cheaters, and trolls. We saw some players this season getting scammer messages from these people. Do you have any ideas on how to mitigate this issue?
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Question 12: Servers: many players reported that the servers this season had a variety of issues from ping to high loss/ lagging. How will you work with the technical committee to try to improve the servers for next season?
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Question 13: Matchday: many times the hour leading to matches/during matches is a stressful time for transaction managers, technical committee members, and gms/team captains scrambling to get their teams together. As a first season gm, I didn’t know how hard it was going to be to sometimes find a sub, deal with server issues, and on one occasion contact an admin because my transaction didn’t go through. What ideas might you have on helping lessen the game-day stress on these people?
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Question 14: Scenario: Public mmr is passed(shocker) and information is surfaced that a gm the previous season leaked mmr to a player on their team. This leak was minor in the sense that they didn’t have access to the entire sheet but something to the effect of “this is your mmr” or “we have this much mmr here’s who we can sign”. Would punishments be in order for these?
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Personal questions: Cash: we’ve already delved into your previous mute of 1 week so the personal question I originally had for you is already moot sadly. In a similar manner though I would like to hear your opinion on the ability to run. You were almost in a position that if that mute had come say 3 days ago it would not have been possible for you to talk in this admin discussion. Do you think the rules we have on who can run for admin are fair?
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NAN | GREG0ROVITCH 🏆 4/21/2022 4:20 PM
Writing this question for all the candidates involved with a franchise. I have been very open about my opinion that any admin should be in no way tied to a franchise (GM, AGM, Player, whatever). There's been people I've talked to that share this opinion and people that disagree with it. Even though you most likely will not be abusing your admin status to benefit your franchise over others in any way, the concern is still absolutely there and a valid one (I mean, just look at a particular incident this past season...). So my question is, 1) how will you ensure that you are not actively or accidently doing this and 2) what do you think is the best way to offer transparency and assurance to the people in this matter? The point with question 2 being, ultimately you can't control what people think and they'll say things regardless of what you do or don't do, but the best assurance we've had so far about rumors and accusations of possible admin misconduct basically amounts to other admins/mods saying 'source: trust me bro' and I feel like that just fosters even more distance between us.
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crudestpack 4/21/2022 4:26 PM
@JmD verbal, keep it on topic
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NAN | JermzPC
Any questions have already been answered just reply with already answered Question 1: We will be losing one of the more technical and hour-intensive admins this election time. How do you feel you can fill in their shoes/ fill the responsibilities left behind
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 7:29 PM
So to your first part. While raptor will be missed and I wont downplay what he did during his time. I think the Tech committee did much of the heavy lifting and can continue to do so. I would like to shoutout nightfury as he does much of the server side stuff for csc and kills the job. That being said im no slouch when it comes to technical stuff, with a degree in Electrical engineering I was tasked with learning many different coding languages and am pretty tech savvy myself. This covers number 2 aswell since you asked about tome and hour intensiveness. Im very much available often. I would love to say that if you asked my players I would respond within an instant and could provide 3-4 hours so csc alone(more or less depending on whats needed of me). That being said I think people would understand if others couldn't put that much time in. (edited)
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Question 3: One of the questions on everyone’s mind constantly who isn’t an admin/mod is “why was x muted”, “what was the situation with y”, “why can’t z play a match” are you for or against public striking and how would you propose to your fellow admins/ mods how to implement this change?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 7:31 PM
I think public striking has more negatives than positives. I would personally stay away from it as I see more harm than good coming from it. But If the other admins and mod committee can give me positives outside of just not having to explain a strike I would be willing to change my mind. As well as if I'm outnumbered I'm outnumbered, Ill do my best to support the choices of whatever happens.
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Question 4: As stated in some of your previous questions as I’m combing through, many times it’s been pointed out the lack of communication during the season between the admin team and the players. It has also been established that fuffy has been the main admin point of contact as shown in notices. Are you for having logging of admin talks/ potentially adding a secretary position tacked on to one of the admins or creating the position where a member sits in on an admin meeting, takes notes, and posts them somewhere public for people to see? This would omit any sensitive information.
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 7:34 PM
I think having a message logging of meetings of what admins go over can be very helpful, I think the secretary position in its self is a fantastic Idea and could be used for even more than just sitting in on admin meetings and taking notes, I think Scraps recommended a "community manger" to many of the staff last season and I view those to be very similar.
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Question 5: Public mmr is a great example. By all accounts of the platforms, we saw last season's admin election public mmr should have passed given everyone’s stance on it. However, a person changed their mind and when the statement came out no public mmr the public had to pry from the admin team who flipped their vote. Are you in favor of making the voting lines public for admin deductions IE saying who voted in what way? Another add-on to this I will give is if you want to give all admins the option to give a small paragraph on why they voted the way they did may help too.
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 7:42 PM
I think adding voting lines can be helpful for certain decisions, I think it would be a case by case basis in the sense that many things dont actually get voted on. meaning that unless its a very large choice (public mmr for example) it wouldn't be used that often. with that being said, I could also see targeted harassment of certain admins by players if they don't get the thing that want. Adding a paragraph might be able to alleviate that a bit.
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NAN | JermzPC
Question 6: We have a wide variety of skills here in CSC and that has become apparent as we reach a 4th tier being added to the top of CSC. One thing that some high-level players have said in the past is that there isn’t much representation of elite/premier players who are admins or even numbers. All 5 of the candidates this time around are all challengers and in the event of noodles, not players. With this feeling of disconnect from the players, how do you hope to deal with some of the concerns brought up?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 7:48 PM
While this is an issue and I understand the concern, Its up to those players to voice how they feel, As well, I think numbers has done a good job recently adding higher level players to help balance it out and give a better understanding of high level play and putting it towards mmr and numbers in general, I think the best thing the admin team can do is LISTEN, this has been a driving point for me the whole time, you need to listen to the people who play and not allow those voices to fall on deaf ears. Lastly, I encourage all high level players to apply and reach out about how you feel. (also if it matters my peak level on faceit is 7 not that it really matters when saying "high level players" may feel misrepresented )
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Questions 7: Do you think that premier was a success or failure this season as a new tier? If you don’t want the premier to be taken away what steps do you think need to be done to improve premier?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 7:49 PM
I answered this in my open statement, but to reiterate, I very much think premier was a failure, I gave my opinion and a "solution" to some of its problems above
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Question 8: Scheduling: one of the things that have been depressing me and some of my players personally was the playoff schedule. We were all hoping to be on the stream for a playoff game to be able to show our friends and family our game (don’t worry it was a blowout shouldn’t have tuned in anyway). On that day in particular there were 5 full games being played in 3 different tiers one of which being a final. This puts a massive strain on media to try to get as many games streamed while also making the players not streamed sad. What ideas do you have for playoffs scheduling to alleviate this?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 7:53 PM
this had been addressed by the current admin team and will continue to be by the new admin team, I think we want everyone to be able to play with their whole 5 and that take priority over anything. that being said we can limit how many games are on one match day by having a better and more concrete schedule can fix many of those issues, that being said its up to media on what games they stream and I dont plan on ever changing that
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Question 9: We are seeing record numbers come in and play CSC. There are so many new faces in here that it’s hard to keep track of sometimes. As we reach this record number the problem of retention is something that always comes up. The off-season is boring and for many, it’s seen as a lack of games to play. 10 men are great and open up a lot of fun but aren’t as fun as say season matches. On top of this combines roll around and for many players who just signed a 2 season contract with their gm they may be put at the bottom of the queue to even be allowed to play combines (many admins would literally come down to queues and force signed agents in the back of the line to basically not be allowed to play). What ways do you see could be done to fix this and give signed players more to do during combines?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 7:59 PM
I want to say that combines are used to gauge the skills of new players coming in and that should never change. that being said as someone who played combines as a player and had to wait until the last time possible I can understand the frustrations but I want to reiterate that combines are meant for new players, Fa's and DEs as they need to showcase their skill the most. things that can give more players things to do is to get events going again, They know how little that did compared to what they wanted to do, Ill do my best to support them and getting what they need and want done. (edited)
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NAN | JermzPC
Question 10: Do you think this league needs another round of recruitment at the magnitude of last season? Do you find the player base to be a good size or do you think more expansion is needed/wanted? Do you think with our current staff capacities we have enough resources to support a league double the size of our current one?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 8:04 PM
I think the community will never really stop growing and I don't want to stop people from learning about such a great place, I think many of the admins and staff were caught of guard by the surge of people that came in and didn't know how to handle it. With that being said We rebounded well and I think can handle a large growth better now with more admins coming in and the past experience.
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Question 11: Follow up on the above. With a mass influx of people comes a mass influx of attention from potential hackers, cheaters, and trolls. We saw some players this season getting scammer messages from these people. Do you have any ideas on how to mitigate this issue?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 8:06 PM
I think this is more or less going to happen no matter how many players we have, and the bigger we grow the more often it will happen or the more there will be. Its up to admins and the moderation team to stop things from happening as fast as possible
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Question 12: Servers: many players reported that the servers this season had a variety of issues from ping to high loss/ lagging. How will you work with the technical committee to try to improve the servers for next season?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 8:10 PM
I think the tech team worked very hard to listen to the concern of the people and trying to fix these issues in a way possible. What admins can do is, give these concerns to the tech team and truly share the the thoughts of players and help brainstorm ideas that could fix them.
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Question 13: Matchday: many times the hour leading to matches/during matches is a stressful time for transaction managers, technical committee members, and gms/team captains scrambling to get their teams together. As a first season gm, I didn’t know how hard it was going to be to sometimes find a sub, deal with server issues, and on one occasion contact an admin because my transaction didn’t go through. What ideas might you have on helping lessen the game-day stress on these people?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 8:17 PM
As a former gm I 100 percent get this, after sometime I got used to it and understand its not easy as a first time gm. I think this is more up to the gm on fixing it. I think you have to come to an understanding with server issues(they happen and many time there's nothing we can do about it.) as well as for subs, I recommend being in constant communication with your players and getting availability as soon as you can on matchdays. About transactions managers, I think this was mostly do to being understaffed and having very few people dealing with so many transactions.
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Question 14: Scenario: Public mmr is passed(shocker) and information is surfaced that a gm the previous season leaked mmr to a player on their team. This leak was minor in the sense that they didn’t have access to the entire sheet but something to the effect of “this is your mmr” or “we have this much mmr here’s who we can sign”. Would punishments be in order for these?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 8:18 PM
This goes under the same severity as before, you look towards the rule books and use them to decide said punishment.
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NAN | JermzPC
Personal questions: Cash: we’ve already delved into your previous mute of 1 week so the personal question I originally had for you is already moot sadly. In a similar manner though I would like to hear your opinion on the ability to run. You were almost in a position that if that mute had come say 3 days ago it would not have been possible for you to talk in this admin discussion. Do you think the rules we have on who can run for admin are fair?
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 8:22 PM
I think the key to being able to run is finding a backer, while things may change I went over every rule multiple times seeing who can and cannot run, A backer puts his reputation and name on the line when choosing someone therefore at least at this current time that is what really matters when running. That being said I think having a better and more concrete set of who is eligible and who is not is needed. This would be up to rules committee and I will leave it to them on making the right choice as I dont think admins should be able to choose who is and isnt allowed to run.
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NAN | GREG0ROVITCH 🏆
Writing this question for all the candidates involved with a franchise. I have been very open about my opinion that any admin should be in no way tied to a franchise (GM, AGM, Player, whatever). There's been people I've talked to that share this opinion and people that disagree with it. Even though you most likely will not be abusing your admin status to benefit your franchise over others in any way, the concern is still absolutely there and a valid one (I mean, just look at a particular incident this past season...). So my question is, 1) how will you ensure that you are not actively or accidently doing this and 2) what do you think is the best way to offer transparency and assurance to the people in this matter? The point with question 2 being, ultimately you can't control what people think and they'll say things regardless of what you do or don't do, but the best assurance we've had so far about rumors and accusations of possible admin misconduct basically amounts to other admins/mods saying 'source: trust me bro' and I feel like that just fosters even more distance between us.
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 8:30 PM
I answered this before on my opinions about gms being allowed to be admins and the other way around. The main issue that exists now is the fact that an admin can see every transactions channel which is a very large issue and a topic to be talked about. As for being a player. I actually think this is more of a benefit than an issue. Players show and voice their concerns more than almost anyone else. so being at the "ground level" admins should just be treated as players in the league.
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NAN | GREG0ROVITCH 🏆
Writing this question for all the candidates involved with a franchise. I have been very open about my opinion that any admin should be in no way tied to a franchise (GM, AGM, Player, whatever). There's been people I've talked to that share this opinion and people that disagree with it. Even though you most likely will not be abusing your admin status to benefit your franchise over others in any way, the concern is still absolutely there and a valid one (I mean, just look at a particular incident this past season...). So my question is, 1) how will you ensure that you are not actively or accidently doing this and 2) what do you think is the best way to offer transparency and assurance to the people in this matter? The point with question 2 being, ultimately you can't control what people think and they'll say things regardless of what you do or don't do, but the best assurance we've had so far about rumors and accusations of possible admin misconduct basically amounts to other admins/mods saying 'source: trust me bro' and I feel like that just fosters even more distance between us.
OS | Cash 🏆 4/21/2022 8:40 PM
I also wanna say that I stepped down from being a gm to be able to be an admin and not have the conflict
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